tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post8801761562228596119..comments2024-03-28T21:16:57.556-07:00Comments on Yowp: H-B Number 60 to H-BYowphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-7808539772721476162017-07-10T07:57:23.717-07:002017-07-10T07:57:23.717-07:00PS As for the "Flintstones", only the 19...PS As for the "Flintstones", only the 1960 first episode in its 1959 pilot identity as "The Flagstones" used the tock music (swimming pool scene, this was the "Swimming Pool" one..it inlcudes that famous "Wilma-in-a-umbrella-for a table" scene (as a result of freaking out at Barney Rubble in a scuba outfit!) The estates, NOT the composers, were the plaintiffs in any sits. BTW Don Fedderson Productions "My Three Sons" (the pre-William Demarest ones; i.e., the William Frawley ons., also the pre-Barry Livingston, ones with Tim Consaidinem, inn B&W rather than color, on ABC rather than CBS,) were released by Paramount Home Video about ten years ago with redoine music, apparently the original tracks being added...but Shout! Factory released the Screen ge,s Dennis/Donna shows with their original ones. And as a final note, Cleassic Media released the Clokey Gumby shorts, where I;m found trotting around to evocative stock cues...with the original cues..:)SCPokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936757752447320636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-45358718893883792242017-07-09T09:36:26.909-07:002017-07-09T09:36:26.909-07:00LOOPY had Capitol's music..? At least the earl...LOOPY had Capitol's music..? At least the earliest were the earliest to use Curtin cues (largely familiar later from the Flinsatones, incuding what became the 1962 Rockenspiel jingle.) As for the 1958 theatrical WB carotons, somehow theatricals aren't covered.....Othjerwise all of your poins I agree with..)Pokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936757752447320636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-6033542864460096772017-07-09T03:27:20.822-07:002017-07-09T03:27:20.822-07:00What puzzles me about this music argument is that ...What puzzles me about this music argument is that other live-action series which share the same music cues have been issued without any problems at all, some now at bargain prices. I was watching THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN this morning and heard several distinctive Capitol library cues (and this includes the theme!) which wound up in HUCK or YOGI cartoons; six months' worth of strike-era '50s Warner Bros. cartoons feature the same H-B music, and other Screen Gems and Universal shows (DONNA REED, DENNIS THE MENACE (again, including the theme song), LEAVE IT TO BEAVER) do too, yet they're all on DVD. Even the first season of THE FLINTSTONES (if I recall correctly) used at least some canned music. Other studios are apparently not as fearful of mass lawsuits from long-deceased composers trying to claim rights. What makes the situation for HUCKLEBERRY HOUND, QUICK DRAW McGRAW and RUFF & REDDY so different--other than a convenient excuse for WB to issue ever other obscure (and awful) H-B series before they even consider them? If this were a legit excuse, we'd have seen the TOUCHE/WALLY/LIPPY collection by now--and LOOPY DE LOOP, which used the Capitol music on the earliest entries in the series, wouldn't exist. (I haven't watched the DVD yet, having seem them recently enough on Boomerang, but I haven't heard that they replaced any of the music.) Heck, if it's a matter of money, Warner Archive could simply issue HUCK Volume 2 and QUICK DRAW McGRAW for the outrageous prices ($50-60 a volume) they've issued the likes of the Warner '50s westerns and drama series and the MGM live-action shows. I think it's more likely that the work it would entail to attempt to assemble more complete episodes than they've got at the moment is the stumbling block, and they're waiting till they've used up the cheaper projects before committing money to these three series. But I'm pretty confident that they will--eventually--appear, probably in the next few years, since they know they have a rapidly aging audience at the moment which won't exist for very much longer.Mike Tiefenbacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04102752875776872720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-4471063523513581772017-07-08T18:22:24.818-07:002017-07-08T18:22:24.818-07:00I personally enjoyed it..with Playboy's Marty ...I personally enjoyed it..with Playboy's Marty Murphy designing it (he'd worked for many other cartoons), thus giving it a unique look..Tom Bosley and Joanie Gerber played the main roles.:)SCPokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936757752447320636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-66708793086389160972017-07-08T16:16:36.857-07:002017-07-08T16:16:36.857-07:00Steve, thanks for your insight. The proximity of t...Steve, thanks for your insight. The proximity of the Taft HQ to Scripps-Howard didn't dawn on me until you mentioned it.<br />Barbera was all too ready to defend his cartoons in print; I've run across a few other feature stories that I should have saved but the focus of the blog is from a time period before all that became necessary. <br />I thought "All in the Family," at the outset anyway, was brilliant. "Father" was just plain old uninteresting. I'm pretty sure I turned it off the two times I tried watching it.Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-52145263293864759792017-07-08T16:03:24.120-07:002017-07-08T16:03:24.120-07:00From what I understand, in the first few series, t...From what I understand, in the first few series, the sound effects and music are on one track. The effects would have to be replicated as well and that may just be too much bother for the financial return. And that's <i>if</i> the separate voice tracks still exist and are able to be used. Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-67870222790792530862017-07-08T14:19:37.796-07:002017-07-08T14:19:37.796-07:00William Hanna & Joseph Barbera: the eternal ki...William Hanna & Joseph Barbera: the eternal kings of animation. <br /><br />rodineisilveirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07751345474415214163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-3394421412908435742017-07-08T11:45:21.344-07:002017-07-08T11:45:21.344-07:00The Richard K. Shull article is about the best con...The Richard K. Shull article is about the best contemporary piece I've read on the demise of Saturday morning TV. Networks were overreacting to a special interest group, much to the displeasure of the affiliates and the advertisers. Broadcasting companies united in their hatred of the clampdown. Note that the Shull piece was syndicated via Scripps-Howard, a corporate cross-town rival to Taft. The world headquarters for both companies were a cab ride apart. <br /><br />Useless trivia: "Wait Till Your Father..." aired on the Taft flagship station WKRC in the prime time access slot. Even at nine years-old, I knew it was All In The Family Lite. Then again, so was The Barkleys, Sigmund and the Sea Monsters, etc...Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12098471743485897147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-16294618580793884682017-07-08T10:45:09.412-07:002017-07-08T10:45:09.412-07:00Thanks for that, very interesting. I suppose if th...Thanks for that, very interesting. I suppose if there happened to be enough demand for the cartoons and money to be made, it might be worth HB's while giving them a new musical score and avoiding any issues over the rights.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-38281339323620970992017-07-08T10:00:53.119-07:002017-07-08T10:00:53.119-07:00ANd it's hard to ascertain who even wrote some...ANd it's hard to ascertain who even wrote some..the major credit for it goes to John Seely of Capitol but...the very fast paced string laden (first used in 1958's Meeces/Jink "Little Birdmouse" in the Hanna-Barbera world), George Hormel-credited "ZR 48 Fast Movement"(alpha numeric "Models" for thesebeing a way of life for the composers) originated in the Fox librayr as "Water Skis":, though at least THE name credited, John Seely (the Ray Kroc of stock music, perhaps, or the Steve Jobs or Marc Zuckerberg, in terms of being the top and thus most known) and Bill Loose get credit, while that was a rare reversal. Loose and Seely often even paid a celebrity--David Rose, to write music, for the usual non-credit (analogous to voices in WB and UPA cartoons waiving their credit, in WB to Mel Blanc, and in UPA, to Jim Backus or Marvin Miller depending on the cartons) as was just per the case. Many Jack Shaindlin (another uncrediter supposed writer), who was actually kind of a "visitor" as he was his own library (go to April 2010, on this blog "The Incomplete Cartoon Shaindlin"), hired other writers, hired many writers, so it's a compl,icated thing. Then music off of old 1940s Walter Lantz cartoons (scores by Darrell Calker and even the later, semi-waning 1950s Clarence Wheeler ones), wound up there. Even a whole score of Lantz's 1945 "Chew Chew Baby" wound up, in Bob Clampett's 1961 Beany and Cecil "Cecil meets Cecilia"=and it is standard issue to hear the early, 1940s Woody theme in Beany cartoons.:) Much like Paramount/Famous/Harvey Winston Sharples scores wound up elsewhere.. HOWEVER..WB Carl Stalling or MGM Scott Bradley cues NEVER wind up in eatch other or other studios's scores...:)! Hopefully that dug deeper into the matter...SCPokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936757752447320636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-28521144291157352852017-07-08T09:22:12.585-07:002017-07-08T09:22:12.585-07:00A happy 60th birthday to the best animation studio...A happy 60th birthday to the best animation studios there ever was.:)Georgihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03926093981963844296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-82996475921200653572017-07-07T12:30:55.495-07:002017-07-07T12:30:55.495-07:00Ah, I see. That may yet be sorted out though. The ...Ah, I see. That may yet be sorted out though. The 1966 TV Batmobile was out of bounds for years until the different companies who owned copyright of the show (or aspects of it) eventually sorted out their differences. That's why Mattel were able to release their version, followed by other toymakers.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-31722915377712885922017-07-07T11:57:02.875-07:002017-07-07T11:57:02.875-07:00It's essentially a music rights issuemail. Th...It's essentially a music rights issuemail. The owners of the cartoons and the owners of the canned music used in said cartoons are unable to see eye-to-eye.cartoonjoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09780256430093956974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-31478914769481424942017-07-07T02:14:21.377-07:002017-07-07T02:14:21.377-07:00Could you elaborate on the Quick Draw McGraw comme...Could you elaborate on the Quick Draw McGraw comment for me. Why won't they be released on home video (dvd)? You may have written about it on a previous post, but I don't recall it.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.com