tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post3634217220938584170..comments2024-03-27T01:21:03.543-07:00Comments on Yowp: Snagglepuss in Arrow ErrorYowphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-79627305213409674332015-08-23T04:38:08.077-07:002015-08-23T04:38:08.077-07:00The other thing about Loopy was he was Hanna-Barbe...The other thing about Loopy was he was Hanna-Barbera's first 'high-concept' character -- i.e. he wasn't just a dog, or a bear, or even a horse in the Old West; Loopy was a wolf, but where wolves were always portrayed as bad, he was the good wolf, but perpetually misunderstood. It was a far more limiting personality than Snagglepuss, who could be in a role Loopy could do, or he could be the snarky adversary to Quick Draw and Major Minor, or he could also be the naive foil as in a few other cartoons. <br /><br />The Coyote would have been a little less beloved if all he had done was chase the Road Runner -- the ability of Jones and Maltese to expand his personality by battling Bugs or vary the gag options by making him into a wolf battling a near-motionless sheepdog gave Mike far more leeway to write. With Loopy, even if Maltese had written every episode, the high concept of the character locked him in too much to a set story line to be as good as most of the 'Original 9' characters in Bill & Joe's TV comedy shorts.J Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15175515543694122729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-52940524414467425542015-08-23T02:30:03.082-07:002015-08-23T02:30:03.082-07:00"And to think I had to leave the flea circus ..."And to think I had to leave the flea circus for this jazz." I don't know why but that line always creases me!granitoonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07106346192751165711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-55048826408923869092015-08-22T18:32:45.095-07:002015-08-22T18:32:45.095-07:00You've answered your own question, Joe. Snaggl...You've answered your own question, Joe. Snagglepuss has the better dialogue. By this stage at Hanna-Barbera, if you had lousy dialogue, you didn't have much. Loopy had lousy dialogue.<br />If you take away Snagglepuss' florid chats to himself in this cartoon you're left with two acts that eventually get to violence punch-lines, and a cartoon that ends because it runs out of time. That describes far too many HB short cartoons after the studio started concentrating on prime-time. They're not really great, but they succeed in likeability and at times rise above it.<br /> Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-31170605656527512802015-08-22T13:16:29.602-07:002015-08-22T13:16:29.602-07:00I agree with Joe's assessment of Loopy de Loop...I agree with Joe's assessment of Loopy de Loop and the other wonderful early H-B creations. My personal choice, however, would encompass up to about 1969 to include "Jack and the Beanstalk," "Alice in Wonderland," and the "Huckleberry Finn" series. Also the HBR record albums. I would call those "nicely-designed, well-voiced, and all-ages humor." The late 60's H-B product still had a degree of edge to it (not universally but here and there at least).scarecrow33https://www.blogger.com/profile/10552306802823617940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-60478516789692783022015-08-22T09:24:34.801-07:002015-08-22T09:24:34.801-07:00And from one of the "Boo Birds" in the e...And from one of the "Boo Birds" in the early 60s Beany/Cecil cartoon "The Boo Birds", and also Poinedexter in another early 6s TV cartoon, Felix the Cat, in one of the outer space episodes..SCPokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15936757752447320636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-42929081421872071002015-08-22T08:31:26.927-07:002015-08-22T08:31:26.927-07:00Hicks Lokey is an expert at drawing cartoon elepha...Hicks Lokey is an expert at drawing cartoon elephants, having animated the Pink elephants on parade in Dumbo.Zartok-35https://www.blogger.com/profile/00449976580118722879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-26098542106479499412015-08-22T08:25:24.548-07:002015-08-22T08:25:24.548-07:00And from Barney in 'At The Races.'And from Barney in 'At The Races.'granitoonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07106346192751165711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-62372403409920409592015-08-22T08:20:47.682-07:002015-08-22T08:20:47.682-07:00"What does 'et cetera, et cetera' mea..."What does 'et cetera, et cetera' mean in Japanese? 'Sucker'?"top_cat_jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365510398800837335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-87366489009140559892015-08-22T08:16:04.600-07:002015-08-22T08:16:04.600-07:00The Fleischer's feature Mr. Bug Goes to Town c...The Fleischer's feature <i>Mr. Bug Goes to Town</i> contained a song, "Katy Did, Katy Didn't". top_cat_jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365510398800837335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-69159379222222168342015-08-22T08:08:21.951-07:002015-08-22T08:08:21.951-07:00We also get a "Whyyy not?" from the butc...We also get a "Whyyy not?" from the butcher in <i>The Flintstones</i> episode , "The Snorkasaurus Hunter". top_cat_jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365510398800837335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-69919956031736932652015-08-22T07:59:03.991-07:002015-08-22T07:59:03.991-07:00Maltese may have had a few leftover thoughts on th...Maltese may have had a few leftover thoughts on the pride of Sherwood Forest from 1958's "Robin Hood Daffy" that didn't fit into that picture but made the cut here.<br /><br />(Allen would get to use his own catch-phrase at Terrytoons, in the Deputy Dawg series that came out roughly at the same time as this cartoon debuted.)J Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15175515543694122729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-86760602140220645192015-08-22T07:56:22.039-07:002015-08-22T07:56:22.039-07:00Another catchphrase that Snagglepuss used occasion...Another catchphrase that Snagglepuss used occasionally (as here) was "Et cetera et cetera" popularized by the character of King Mongkut as portrayed by Yul Brynner in "The King and I"scarecrow33https://www.blogger.com/profile/10552306802823617940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-20919300951962751732015-08-22T07:52:06.571-07:002015-08-22T07:52:06.571-07:00“ So Snagglepuss decides to be Robin Hood, don a g...<i>“ So Snagglepuss decides to be Robin Hood, don a green felt hat and a quiver of arrows, and help the less fortunate. Naturally he comes up on the losing end.”</i><br /><br />How is this really different from any Loopy De Loop cartoon? Only Loopy would just be his charming Samaritan-self, rather than adopt a Robin Hood affectation. He’d still get shot by the zoo-keeper, crushed by the elephant, and run off at the end. Indeed, Maltese could probably have written the exact same cartoon for Loopy! Perhaps he even did… <br /><br />As with most of you, I certainly think Snagglepuss is the better character – and definitely has the better dialogue, but I’ll never truly understand the (in my view, undeserved and disproportionate) disdain for Loopy. Especially, having seen The Good Wolf’s body of work on the recent DVD collection. <br /><br />To me, anything from Hanna-Barbera, pre-1965, is part of a great golden age where everything was nicely-designed, well-voiced, and exhibited wonderful all-ages humor. <br />Joe Torciviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00421096229407174474noreply@blogger.com