tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post2774817208149297755..comments2024-03-28T16:36:44.544-07:00Comments on Yowp: The Daws Bone’s Connected to the...Yowphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-89763270595629519362010-06-16T20:41:43.871-07:002010-06-16T20:41:43.871-07:00LOL! On Golden AGe Cartoon Forums, "Smurf Jus...LOL! On Golden AGe Cartoon Forums, "Smurf Justice for June Foray" [whether she shou;d have accepted the Smurfs role back in 1981 for reasons besides money] mentions how younger voice and celebrity performers, famous or not, are being hired--whether it's E.G.Daily or Katy Perry...Paul Winchell, had he not died in 2005 and John Kricfalusi wou;ld tell you stories about today's voice specialists replacing them [I won't even get into the totally seperate issues of the ethics of today's voice only actors imitating celebrities. Yowp, we don't have to worry about Justin Beiber playing the doh-0nut eating Homer [I didn't really know who Justin was till recently..our luck we guess musically LOL].<br /><br />Not a fan of most 1990s cartoons or cartoons made in last 45 years despite who's voicing them, as said.:)<br /><br />But getting away from that, and to a happier aspect of this, it's odd looking at the voices at the startof this page--JerryHausner and Peter Leeds, and similiar to my above statement, they don't even have the prominece of a Mel Blanc or June Foray, due to 1) being support voices and 2) voicing characters not as famous as a Bugs or even as a Yogi [Jerry was Mr.Magoo's teenage 1920s stlye nephew Waldo].<br /><br />Flip Flopping my limited fondness for post-radio voice specialist voice actors, Ed Wynn and [as in Frosty the Snowman and that Marlo Thomas all star Free to be You and Me] Billy De Wolfe had unqiue voices..Frosty producer Arthur Rankin Jr. mentioned [1997] "His voice is [like Charles Nelson Reilly] perfect for animaiton". Too bad Billy passed toosoon..Paul Lynde made some appearances but in the start of the dark ages of HB.Pokeyhttp://sjcarrasblog.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-46375113068788522402010-01-26T17:56:48.069-08:002010-01-26T17:56:48.069-08:00Erroll, how many of today's voice actors, Erro...Erroll, how many of today's voice actors, Erroll, are asd good as the originals? [See my comments above about voice actors replacinbg older ones.] Janet Waldo is not even used when voice actors as such are required-forget Tiffany--today's voice actors, who don't thrill me as much [don't thye ALL sound like Lola Bunny or Rugrats to me] would be just as well cast. Waldo, Dick Beals, and others, get second billing when even non-celebrity voice actors are credited. And as I've said, I hate the idea that younger actors replaced older ones still living---as with Tigger..then there was the case of Billy West trying to claim credit for John Kricfalusi's voice of Ren, and there wasn't even a generation gap. Equitably, Janet Waldo and June Foray's peers like Dinah Shore and Doris Day were also rejected, as being "ready to put out to pasturew". [Only all four of those ladies worked in radio and ANY of them can outdo ANY celebrity vboice or the Rugrats etc.voices!]<br /><br />SJCSJCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-34752399032496821402010-01-21T07:41:02.350-08:002010-01-21T07:41:02.350-08:00I hated the fact that Tiffany was brought in for T...I hated the fact that Tiffany was brought in for The Jetsons film, too. Unfortunately, that decision was forced upon Joe Barbera by Universal, who had their hands so deep into the production of that film, that Joe Barbera eventually threw in the towel. I'm sure it's not the film he wanted released. Janet did voice the film, though so her tracks are somewhere, unless WB threw them away after their acquisition of HB. It wouldn't surprise me. I wish they would replace her track and remove Tiffany and release the DVD again, but that's not going to happen. :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-70547345311120938072010-01-15T19:59:09.014-08:002010-01-15T19:59:09.014-08:00In other words, annoying characters, always a subj...In other words, annoying characters, always a subjective matter, aren't just limited to those voiced by celebrities [Yakky, Scooby]..ironically Arnold Stang [profiled here] was a kind of odd duck, a radio actor, voice actor and known comic who had an impeccable sense of timing, much like other older character actors [Jim Backus, Edward E.Horton, Hans Conreid, Sterling Holloway.].<br /><br />[After all, regardless of who did the voices, who can watch Daffy hunting Bugs or Speedy, and not everyone can sit thru Spunky and Tadpole, Luno, or others. On the other hand, Pixar did a good job at doing this but with WELL done characters, CGI or not. Incidentally, the one they've used, Ed Asner, was born in the 20s and did radio..and their more recent have less celebrity types. Ratatouille had Patton Oswalt who isn't a "Name."]<br /><br />Yowp, Dan Casteletta [s][?] and the rest of the SIMPSONS already did a blockbustert 2007 box office Simposons hit. After seeing this Bieber guy who cite, on YouTube, he's too YOUNG to do the SIMPSONS voices.]<br /><br />But that is my last comment on today's cartoons, or any made after around 1966 either way.<br /><br />Back to the topic, I'm still wondering who Mark of the Mouse is played by, the hammy "bad guy" cat under Mr.Jinks MST like comment's just Daws Butler doing his Huckleberrry "Highway Patrol" spoof badguy there. Don Messick is the narrator. <br /><br />Jerry Mann was brought in for the Flinstones, but not for any Top Cat apparently, or any shorts at HB. You mention Red Coffee and Vance Colvig. Of course after Red did a certain little ducklet [I like that term you sued in place of duckling] Jimmy Weldon madde him only less "Cutesey". I wonder who the earliest Baba Looey was if not Daws.<br /><br />Anyway, I'll comment on the next post..hope the Jack Shaindlin entry gets put up there. Since that wasn't a Hi Q part but a distributed "stepchild" as it were, the introduction to the entry for that ought to be interesting. And that was an unnanounced title, the Daws topic, and I like the title, based on Dry bones. <br /><br />Finally there is with Pattee Chapman another HB conection, a school bus driver episode of the Flintstones when Fred tries to keep up his schedule [remember back when Fred and others on the show were in fear of losing their job; even a cop in the "letter to Mr.Slate" was reduced to pleading on his knees.Herb Vigran there..and J.Stephenson. Ah, the peak days of the Flinstones,same as the early, and Sandra Gould, Frank Nelson,etc.,etc.,etc.as Yul Brynner once said.]<br /><br />Also the evolution of HB sound effects might be a suggestion for another topic..Pokeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-82351035691556037492010-01-13T20:19:03.916-08:002010-01-13T20:19:03.916-08:00And most of today's animation voice actors to ...And most of today's animation voice actors to me have no warmth like the 60s or eatlier. They're all trying to sound like Buster Bunny, Angelica Pickes,etc. And too many [Billy West, Jim Cummings], did the same thing that Tiffany did: Take over a living person's voice-Billy West with John Kricfalusi as Stimpy, Jim Cummins as Tigger when Paul Winchell as still kickin', and of course as Dave said, Tiffany in lieu of Janet Waldo as Judy Jetson. The only difference is celebrity replacement of a fregular voice actor, and those as mentioned don't even get the chance that a current specialist acotr gets [forget the star voices]. And of course we know about Lucille Bliss vs GeGe Pearson as Crusader Rabbit, back in 1957, and neither were celebs. But both were in a fortunate time before the annoying Tiny Toons era. Yowp, I know you and other respect Tress McNeille aka Babs but outside Simpsons she and most other modern voices don't do anymore than the celebs to me, but then again that's also in tune with my aforecited preference for the pre-67 cartoons and earlier.<br /><br />Personally, going beyond the voices, Tiny Toons can';t hold a candle in class and style to the older shorts, and the smug voices have a lot to do with it.Pokey/SJCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-41813960800700200632010-01-13T18:04:36.697-08:002010-01-13T18:04:36.697-08:00Yes, Anon, it was Ken Snyder, the guy involved wi...Yes, Anon, it was Ken Snyder, the guy involved with the '60s Popeye cartoons. Thanks for catching that. I'll fix it.Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-76840744504209634552010-01-13T17:38:42.661-08:002010-01-13T17:38:42.661-08:00It all goes back to the most egregious casting mis...It all goes back to the most egregious casting mistake of all time: Tiffany as Judy Jetson, just to sell tickets. I think the knife wounds in Janet Waldo's back still haven't healed.Dave Mackeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13454782108761662940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-79731616684270026572010-01-13T17:05:45.811-08:002010-01-13T17:05:45.811-08:00Re: "Warners used [Hal Smith] as Elmer Fudd a...Re: "Warners used [Hal Smith] as Elmer Fudd after Arthur Q. Bryan died and he seems willing to accept work on the lamest of cartoons (like ... and Ken Mundie’s ‘Funny Company’ educationals)." I wasn't aware Ken Mundie was involved in this. WikiPedia and IMDB agree. Ken "Snyder" perhaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-19806277442059319872010-01-13T10:50:57.920-08:002010-01-13T10:50:57.920-08:00Mark, I can't take credit for the Hausner reve...Mark, I can't take credit for the Hausner revelation. Mark Evanier mentioned it on a message board. I am just a lowly scavenger of information.<br /><br />Y.P. Doug, I would have guessed Doug Young; it sounds like him in the first lines. But M. Evanier sent me an e-mail saying he and Earl Kress wondered, too, and couldn't reach a conclusion. I suspect Earl's acquainted with Mr. Young personally.<br /><br />It's odd H-B would bring in someone just to do what is really a generic French imitation, and a third actor in a cartoon to boot. Daws would have been able to have done the role quite easily. But it could be since Daws was doing a fake French voice already, he could have said "Joe, listen, I know someone..."<br /><br />Errol, producers would hire Justin Bieber to play Homer Simpson for a big-money movie and not think about it twice. Studios don't care about the voice; they're buying a name because they've got some ridiculous research saying audiences care more about names than voices. And the popularity of a whole bunch of CGI features would back it up.Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-52021333749579549752010-01-13T09:59:50.860-08:002010-01-13T09:59:50.860-08:00Very true; Doug Young received very little recogni...Very true; Doug Young received very little recognition in the groundbreaking success of the early H-B TV product. He provided many incidentals in the Loopy DeLoop theatricals Seasons 4 and 5 of THE FLINTSTONES, some very effective dramatic work in JONNY QUEST, and various TV shorts all the way through 1966. Yet, his only regular characters are Doggie Daddy, Ding-a-Ling Wolf (in what some say is a Buddy Hackett imitation), and the much-less remembered Yippee, biggest of the Three Goofy Guards.<br /><br />Jerry Hausner, would reappear to provide incidentals for ONE Season 4 FLINTSTONES episode, "Dino Disappears". He's pretty easy to pick out. At that time Messick, Young, John Stephenson or Howard Morris were the usual male guest voices. Apparently none of them were available at the time.Howard Feinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-49356909456839533562010-01-13T08:53:52.274-08:002010-01-13T08:53:52.274-08:00The faked french accent at the top of "Mark o...The faked french accent at the top of "Mark of the Mouse" sounds a lot like Doggie Daddy, ergo it must be Doug Young.Your Pal Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307726382524899542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-58554758224692973822010-01-13T07:30:20.818-08:002010-01-13T07:30:20.818-08:00Wow...this is why I enjoy your blog so much. You n...Wow...this is why I enjoy your blog so much. You not only share with us obscure vintage articles about H-B, but also answer questions that we H-B aficionados have had for years. I never knew that it was Jerry Hausner who was doing Blabber in those early shorts. Thanks for clearing up that "mystery" for me.MARK CHRISTIANSENhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07313957747157833979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-14559264388957757622010-01-13T07:23:22.740-08:002010-01-13T07:23:22.740-08:00Great post. I have two of the albums that Freenber...Great post. I have two of the albums that Freenberg did over at Capitol with June Foray, Daws, and Peter Leeds. Most of these voice actors are gone, and sorely missed. These days, we are given "Movie Stars", well known comedians, singers, entertainment personalities, and television actors to voice all the computer animated features. Putting a great deal of today's voice actors into the dreaded " Additional Voices " catagory. I actually had a conversation with one of Daw's students, Bob Bergen, about that. Hats off to the originals.Errolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-6461809438481490262010-01-13T06:31:00.543-08:002010-01-13T06:31:00.543-08:00Yowp, wasn't "Mark of the Mouse" Don...Yowp, wasn't "Mark of the Mouse" Don Messick himself?SJCnoreply@blogger.com