tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post985151813221132029..comments2024-03-28T21:16:57.556-07:00Comments on Yowp: They Drew the FlintstonesYowphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-14290286053942701742017-09-10T21:16:18.242-07:002017-09-10T21:16:18.242-07:00on the ending theme wilma didnt have any mouth dra...on the ending theme wilma didnt have any mouth drawn when she was sleeping why? dianetruthfulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00679460016133316116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-31867426902065977962017-03-01T12:01:52.458-08:002017-03-01T12:01:52.458-08:00Dick Lundy was my favorite animator. He made the c...Dick Lundy was my favorite animator. He made the characters look so smooth. I'm not a fan of Ken Muse however. He makes Fred look old and fatSteve Kayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838038674709469537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-28291190607041262112016-11-22T07:09:25.461-08:002016-11-22T07:09:25.461-08:00I was gonna say the same thing about the rounded h...I was gonna say the same thing about the rounded hair LOLAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04197820490243433195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-59594101864772803502012-09-04T07:42:43.562-07:002012-09-04T07:42:43.562-07:00No, it loves like Ed Love's animation from Wal...No, it loves like Ed Love's animation from Walt Clinton layouts. Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-43110006095357489842012-09-03T02:06:01.728-07:002012-09-03T02:06:01.728-07:00Regarding David Simmons' comment about Jerry H...Regarding David Simmons' comment about Jerry Hathcock and the rounded forms of Fred's hair--I noticed that in the first-season episode "The Babysitters", Fred and Barney's hair has that "rounded" look (like an old string mop) through most if not all the episode. Was that Hathcock's work?Rachel Newsteadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03487248742843223535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-39474399996077606342011-02-03T11:00:33.593-08:002011-02-03T11:00:33.593-08:00Oh, ok- so much for the 'production oversight ...Oh, ok- so much for the 'production oversight combined with an encroaching air-date hidden inside a "no time to fix it now" mystery/riddle/enigma'.<br /><br />thanks Yowp!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-3368040044022106762011-02-01T16:11:36.743-08:002011-02-01T16:11:36.743-08:00As far as I can tell, Anon, that was a stylistic c...As far as I can tell, Anon, that was a stylistic choice. I've seen it in comics where someone has no mouth when they're sleeping.Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-62419746346270658582011-02-01T13:38:10.021-08:002011-02-01T13:38:10.021-08:00Hey, i'm sure i'm not the only one to noti...Hey, i'm sure i'm not the only one to notice this; but does anyone know what happened to poor Wilma's mouth (when she's asleep in bed) during the "Rise & Shine" outros?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-22341166904555384502010-10-03T05:09:55.688-07:002010-10-03T05:09:55.688-07:00Just watched Sassy. The bcdb credits Nicholas, Kei...Just watched Sassy. The bcdb credits Nicholas, Keil, Hathcock, Lundy, and Holt as animators. Fred being dragged by Dino to the supermarket thru to the audition scene is Keil. Fred and Dino driving to the studio is perhaps Harry Holt; he draws his Fred much like Keil. The scene where the boy asks for close-ups is Jerry Hathcock. I always liked the way he drew Fred: rounded hair and features. His top-hair points are very close to the front, and he has three side-hair points. Then Dick lundy. Note while Fred is sitting next to the director, he has four side-hair points. More Lundy until Dino is told his tail will be chopped off, then we return to Nicholas. Thank goodness Nicholas did the big revelation scene, that's the kind of thing he did best.<br /><br />Keil's not a bad animator, just a bit stiff, although I do think Dino's audition scene is well done. Never cared for the way he drew Fred and Barney.<br /><br />It is a terrific episode.David Simmonsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-64340696113820536212010-10-02T02:02:43.866-07:002010-10-02T02:02:43.866-07:00David, a cartoon with a bunch of styles is the one...David, a cartoon with a bunch of styles is the one where Barney is Slate's nephew (season 3). It suddenly goes from what looks like Carlo Vinci's jerking head to Don Patterson's very different shaped Fred talking to Barney cutting a hedge. Ken Muse shows up later. And there's another guy who has the weirdest proportions; Wilma's head is huge in one scene and Barney is really large in another. I wonder how much the layouts dictated that (ie. Bick's style vs. Clinton's).<br /><br />I watched Sassie again tonight. About all I can guess is Good Expressions = Nicholas. Not So Good = Someone Else.Yowphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264605351878574044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-89150578221190792992010-09-30T18:59:27.241-07:002010-09-30T18:59:27.241-07:00To me, the most distinctive thing about Dick Lundy...To me, the most distinctive thing about Dick Lundy's animation was the way Fred and Barney walked: arms swinging, crooked at the elbows. And the head bob, which occasionally went side to side as well as up and down.<br /><br />Yes, George Nicholas excelled at the maniaical Fred. William Keil drew his Fred and Barney with almost no variation: stylized, pointy hair and very thick faces and bodies. The diference between Nicholas and Keil was a little jarring to me, even as a kid.<br /><br />Love the lumps of fat on Fred and Barney's necks by Ed Love.<br /><br />Don Patterson is my favorite. Love the head bobs and the way he animated dialogue; he not only animates "f's", but "v's" and "l's", too. His characters have the most expressive eyes and eyebrows, and great hands. It seems he always drew closest to Ed Benedict's model, with just the right proportions. The grab of Fred with his arms extended is perfection.<br /><br />And look at the Ken Muse Fred on the end-credits: his head is too big; his arm is too thin; his hands are too small; his body is shapeless; and his feet are facing the wrong direction. Other than that....David Simmonsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-13984438944461721522010-09-28T10:14:40.496-07:002010-09-28T10:14:40.496-07:00Great post! I've learned over the years which ...Great post! I've learned over the years which style was which for most of the 1st season animators, but this makes it much clearer.<br /><br />I enjoy the unique aspects of each of them, but I've always been partial to George Nicholas' work. You even included a favorite moment in his section here with the maniaical Fred going into his Hollywood frenzy. He was great with the big mouths. He also had a very sharp and consistent overall style that stood out to me even as a tyke.<br /><br />The fact that each animator pretty much handled full episodes is still pretty impressive. I don't know if I've ever heard what the turnaround time was on average per episode, but these guys were certainly up to the challenge. <br /><br />I just happened to catch part of a "Flintstones Comedy Hour" show on Boomerang a couple days ago, and you could take any inbetween frame these guys did and it would beat all the key frames of that sad echo of a show.J C Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00244856573725339238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-63469332659138405152010-09-28T09:44:30.288-07:002010-09-28T09:44:30.288-07:00Bill Keil animated alot like Nick Nicholas, but wi...Bill Keil animated alot like Nick Nicholas, but with slightly smaller preportions, and a stronger attention to detail. He accentuated a character's neck, and liked to draw spikey hair, as well. <br /><br />Bill was lamost always put on episodes with George in the first few years.Zartok-35https://www.blogger.com/profile/00449976580118722879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-10035701523975970682010-09-28T08:49:56.742-07:002010-09-28T08:49:56.742-07:00As a kid, I loved trying to figure out the artists...As a kid, I loved trying to figure out the artists' styles by matching up the visuals with the credits. And it wasn't always easy on the Flintstones, because sometimes they just spliced on the credits from another episode on the end; that's local syndication for you. (At least I had plenty of H-B shorts to fall back on for those animator IDs.) And I had nicknames for each of them: Carlo Vinci was "Twitchy"; George Nicholas was "Crazy Eyes"; Ed Love was "Purse Mouth"; Don Patterson was "Baggy Eyes"; and Ken Muse was ... uh ... "That Guy that Always Did that Shy Head Turning Towards the Shoulder and Turning You Upper Body Back and Forth." (Hey, they weren't all winners, but I knew who I meant.)<br /><br />I'm with you; "Sassie" is my favorite as well. Great sendup of the TV industry and absolutely the saddest scene in any Flintstones cartoon.joecabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16862252671814767307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-24597024816028630302010-09-28T05:19:31.494-07:002010-09-28T05:19:31.494-07:00The last two Season 1 episodes, "Rooms for Re...The last two Season 1 episodes, "Rooms for Rent" and "Fred Flintstone: Before and After" used five or six different animators. Muse, Vinci, Nicholas, Patterson and Keil all work on both. Maybe this was after the production season on the shorts ended, and they were available.<br /><br />I'd love to see specific Season 2 animator credits, but they seem to be lost. Some episodes from that season- "The House Guest"; "Impractical Joker"; "The Beauty Contest"; The Picnic" feature animation not readily familiar to the semi-trained eye. During the 1961-62 studio seems to have hired a lot of animators who didn't hang around long such as Robert Bentley, Phil Duncan, Gil Turner, C.L. Hartman and Don Towsley. Irv Spence and Don Williams, who animated on the concurrent TOP CAT, may have contributed as well.Howard Feinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-36096516293910399572010-09-28T05:11:54.629-07:002010-09-28T05:11:54.629-07:00Very interesting analysis of each animator. From w...Very interesting analysis of each animator. From what I've seen, Bill Keil draws his characters squat and chubby, with rather wide heads. He was paired with George Nicholas in numerous JETSONS and Season 2 FLINTSTONES, and with Dick Lundy on some Season 4 FLINTSTONES.<br /><br />It seems that most comic-book and storybook drawings of the H-B characters are based on Lundy's template: very square and solidly drawn with very little exaggeration. <br /><br />There were two animators at H-B during the early 60s who somewhat recall Muse's style. John Boersma did a few Augies, Snoopers and Meeces, and all of one Season 2 FLINTSTONE, "This is Your Lifesaver". Emil Carle did one Meece, numerous Wally Gators and Lippy/Hardys, and many Season 2 and 3 FLINTSTONES. The crinkles under the eyes, jerky head movements and 'Muse teeth' are quite evident when either one animates Fred or Barney laughing.Howard Feinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-66675057588904033772010-09-28T04:58:58.483-07:002010-09-28T04:58:58.483-07:00The animation credits shown in your screengrab are...The animation credits shown in your screengrab are actually 'gang credits'. When the 'Rise and Shine' closing titles were discovered in 1994, Earl Kress redid the credits in the 'Chinese' style used by H-B until about 1961. The voice credits are also 'ganged'.Howard Feinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5403931334822730200.post-87955298458163083002010-09-28T04:50:12.807-07:002010-09-28T04:50:12.807-07:00A lot of New York animators went to the Coast in t...A lot of New York animators went to the Coast in the 60's as a result of the downsizing at Paramount and Terrytoons, and some of them wound up drawing Fred and Barney: Hicks Lokey, George Germanetti, Lou Zukor and Chuck Harriton. Johnny Gent (one of the most highly regarded NY animators from Terrytoons and Famous) did a lot of fifth season episodes. One of the later animators on the show was Michael Webster, who eventually headed Disney's TV animation studio.Dave Mackeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13454782108761662940noreply@blogger.com